USE CURSOR KEYS TO SCROLL TEXT. USE CURSOR KEYS TO SCROLL TEXT. 8 Bit MESSAGES AND ADS PART 1 MESSAGES AND ADS PART 1 To: 999 (all members) From: K1R Subject: Z88 COMPUTERS Has anybody got any experience of Z88's Especially interfacing with the BEEB? I use my machines mainly for word processing - I'd be pleased to hear of ANY WORDWISE+ software or utils. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: 4B2 Subject: SOLINET Apart from having a Model B, almost from it's birth, and a Master for about the last six years, I have also had a PC for 3 years or so. My present box is a 486DX 33, running MS-DOS 5 and Windows 3.1. I have no experience of the Arcs, but if any 8BS Members are considering a move to the PC world, I would be happy to give any help/advice I could, on a one to one basis. Ron Marshall (Solinet) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: 0E7 (Fred Nevin) Subject: SUPER MARKETS I see the new era of Computer Store Supermarkets has reached our area in the form of BYTE Computer Superstore. I decided to pay a visit to appraise what they had on offer. I must admit I was surprised. Like all Supermarkets it is really only a great big shell where until recently a kitchen furniture dealer went bankrupt. The inside had been personalised for the product and an aura of expensive power met one on entering. I am sure that if it had been in the USA that the security guard at the entrance would have been totting a forty five. However once inside there was no restriction on one at all apart from the watchful eye of security. One was able to stroll around the many display stands examining the multitude of goods on display from software to hardware and all the latest literature. I think about everything one could think of was on display. Now for the good part.Computers all of them working littered the stands. All physical sizes and powers are available for ones titillation, with no restrictions whatsoever. Indeed help is even available for one to play with Windows etc by staff in attendance. Of course with me being an expert on Windows (I clean them now and then) and Mice (I used to keep 'White Mices' ) I did not need their assistance. In all it is a very good display and even caters for SEGA fans but alas no ACORNs grow in BROOKLYN. One could spend days in there playing with Windows and Wordprocessors etc. It is very tempting indeed the only problem being the price as with my expensive tastes I naturally would like the best but when I look at the price tag I think that seems reasonable until the dreaded +VAT appears then I realise it is time to go and stand in the bus queue and hope when and if it arrives that the driver will not open the door and yell when I produce my bus pass "Can't you wrinklies read the time. You can't get on here with that .It's only 4.29 and that aint valid till 4.30". With those words from the Sermon on the Mount the bus doors are slammed and off he roars in full flight once more and triumphant in the thought that he has shown them once again who is boss and maintained the very high standard of the Bus Companies. I will watch him with disdain and think what the heck and move along to the car park where until now I had forgotten I had parked the ROLLER then home to the Hall to tea on the lawn.Oh what a life. Well whats wrong with that after all I had just visited Fantasy Island. Enough of this waffle. Seriously now I have just spent a half hour this afternoon trying out WINDOWS with various programs and it became apparent that a great amount of learning time would be required to become proficient with these programs. Even with the inbuilt help of WINDOWS it seems a daunting task to master the software to a standard one is used to with the BBC.I assume that the learning time must be long and arduous. I know that some members are conversant with PCs having use of them at work. Could you say if I am correct in my assumption. The reason behind this enquiry is that one day my BBC Master is going to fail and be scrapped. When that day arrives what computer do I buy?.I am trying to see what lies before me which will help me to make the right decision when the time arrives. Oh sorry must finish now as there is to my suprise no more room in the file and I was assuming that it would go on forever like a WP.I wonder if this occurs in WINDOWS????. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: 0E7 (Fred Nevin) Subject: BEEBUG MAGAZINE I have been having some difficulties with some programs in the magazine and have written twice in an attempt to obtain the correct listings from BEEBUG. After a wait of over two months it would appear they have gone into 'INCOMMUNICADO' or something as no reply whatsoever has been received. Vol12. N0 3.July 93.Program "CENSUS" Page 18. My copy has only half a line printed prior to line 2290.Presumably line 2980 or from line 2940 to 2990. Naturally this missing line or lines appear to be affecting the saving of data and without it the program will not RUN. Vol12.N04.Aug93.Program"Loan Repayment" Page 26. This program will not accept INPUT for storage as a FN procedure. Is this a programming error as to howINPUT is stored or another listing error. Originally published in Vol 4.No 5. Any one got a copy or can say what is wrong After having had two letters totally ignored by BEEBUG about the following complaint & finding the above problems I am rather annoyed to say the least with BEEBUG. Vol 12.N0 2.June 93."Slide Cataloguer" There is mentioned in the text about a procedure called PROCskip. Nowhere in the listing does this procedure appear. As can be imagined this is a procedure enabling records to be selected from the file. Without it the program is a bit of a dead loss. Does anyone have a different copy to mine which shows the missing PROCEDURE ?. I am mistified as to BEEBUGS lack of response to these queries as in the past I have found them excellent in their efforts to be of assistance. I cannot help but wonder if this is a result of the cessation of support for the BBCB/MASTER and the close of their BEEBUG magazine publication. If so what an ignominious end. Any help with these programs would be greatly appreciated as it looks as if BEEBUG have lost all interest in the BEEB/MASTER. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (All members) From: 2J3 (Chris Richardson) Subject: Printout of teletext files. The program 7TO3 allows you to print out teletext files such as this one. Before the file is printed out, the program asks you "MARKED PRINTOUT?". If you answer "Y" to this you may then input a search string. If this string is found, the text is printed out from that point. I have noticed comments that there is no way to then stop the printout. This is not true! Firstly, you may temporarily hold the printout with CTRL+SHIFT, releasing CTRL to move on. Secondly, pressing ESCAPE aborts the operation. You may therefore use the search to find the start point in the text. You may then use CTRL+SHIFT to read the text as it is printed. When you have enough printed out you can then press ESCAPE to terminate printout. I find this the handiest way to print out sections of text from teletext files. I could add a section to the teletext converter to input a termination string. This hasn't been done so far because I thought it would just add more complications. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To 999 (All) From 2J3 (C.J.Richardson.) Subject Humour I have received similar stories from several sources so no doubt half of you have already heard something similar. However, it seems to hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head. So off we go with the first variation that I heard : The Ambulance Service and the Fire service decided to have an inter-service boat race. The Ambulance Service was trounced well and truly by the Fire Service. After the appalling defeat, the Ambulance Service senior management decided to hold an enquiry into the disaster. A working party was set up to investigate. After some considerable length of time a lengthy report was produced. The conclusion was as follows : The Fire Service had 8 people rowing and one steering the boat, whereas the Ambulance Service had 8 people steering and one rowing. A re-organisation of the rowing team was needed. The Ambulance Service, after further great deliberation decided that the new team should consist of: Three Steering Managers, three Assistant Steering Managers, one Executive Steering Manager and a Director of Steering Services. A performance and appraisal system was also set up to motivate the rower to row harder. Will we win next year? And another thing!! Here's another one: Extract from the writings of the Roman, Petronius Arbitor, Governor of Bithynia who committed suicide in AD 65 having fallen foul of Tigellinus, favourite of Nero. "We trained hard... but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up in teams, we would be re-organised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by re-organising - and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation." ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: K2B Subject: InterBase Having acquired InterBase I'm surprised at the lack of support for it's excellent programming language. I've not seen any article/program in Micro/ Acorn User or Beebug. Can anyone give any hints or tips? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: K2B Subject: NOVACAD HELP! I have the NOVACAD chip but with no utility disc or manual. Can someone give me a clue? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: K2B Subject: WANTED Manuals for the Master. I have just bought a Master and have no manuals for it at all. Please help! ALSO. My Master has Econet fitted. Can anyone tell me how to turn it back into the normal "stand alone" Master? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To : 999 (All members) From : 483 (Daniel Shimmin) Re : Some words commonly mis-spelt suppressed (double "p", double "s") independent (NOT "independant") accessing (NOT "accesing") thank you (NOT "thankyou") Use of apostrophes: "it's own name" SHOULD BE WRITTEN "its own name" "its not quite as simple as it looks" SHOULD BE WRITTEN "it's not quite as simple as it looks" "thats a short introduction" SHOULD BE WRITTEN "that's a short introduction" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all) & YJ2 (A.Snodgrass) From: 4MD (Graham Gallagher) Subject: Codename Droid (Stryker's Run) If I remember rightly the claws in sector 3 are immobilised by operating all 3 No. or possibly the first 2 No. of the switches located opposite the computer terminals near the roof. You may also have to collect an object (I can't remember what) from near the roof next to a missile, but you need a jet pack to do this. Since jet pack fuel doesn't last long you have to be quick and therefore takes some practice. The option of pressing "J" at the start of the game to jump to zone 2 is a good time saver for such practice, but if used prevents you from reaching the final goal. A further tip is that in order to collect a spanner from the rooms below sector 3 (right hand lift) you'll need the jet pack. I discovered that it's best to collect this before entering sector 3. Speed is essential with careful fuel preservation and use of the re-fueling cannister as you need to get back up the lift to sector 3 to collect the object from near the roof. Use the pause facility (copy) to plan your next move helps to conserve fuel. Finally, the disc is like most of the other objects in that it is simply collected and having done so you are then allowed access to the Z11 space- craft at the end of the game. You don't actually put the disc into any of the computers. GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF THE MISSION. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: 4MD (Graham Gallagher) Subject: Sound Control by John Isley The above article looks as though it might be very useful. I haven't got the nerve to start soldering bits on but I think I could at least manage to reset the volume adjuster on the BBC B to a achieve a more comfortable sound level. In the past I have occasionally reset the sound level from within a program. This is time consuming and more often than not I simply muffle the sound by placing my hand over the speaker (same as everybody else I should imagine). I'll put the instructions to good use in the near future if only to stop the kids from rushing in every time I !BOOT a games disk. I am looking forward to reading John's article on connecting "...an infinite number of disk drives...". I recently acquired a spare drive from an offer I couldn't refuse. Upon first enquiry with WE they didn't know what I was on about. When I explained in detail the assistant advised that the necessary cabling would have to be made to order and if I remember correctly the cost was about #25 +VAT. This was more than I'd expected and so the disk drive has remained in it's box only to be used in the event of break downs. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: K1Z ROY CROUCH Subject: HELP CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THE LOAN OF A COPY OF MANUAL FOR THE EPSON LQ 1500 PRINTER YOU WILL OF COURSE BE REIMBURSED FOR YOUR EXPENSES. MANY THANKS. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: K1Z ROY CROUCH Subject: HELP AGAIN IN TROUBLE CAN ANYONE GET HOLD OF A FUNCTION KEY INSERT CARD FOR ME ACORN REFUSE TO SUPPLY ONE AND THE LOCAL DEALERS TWO REFUSE ON THE GROUNDS IT IS TOO CHEAP FOR IT TO BE WORTH THEIR WHILE GETTING IT. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, To: 999 (all members) From: 1WU (Fred Price) Subject: ENGLISH (As spoken) This little snippet was taken from a local north east freebee newspaper. DIALECT DIALECT We went down south we took the bus Folk down there could't understand us, They didn't narr what we tarrked about Seemed they didn't narr nowt about owt, They didn't take hold when I said tak harrd, The way they spoke you'd a thought they'd narred, Hi marra keep gannin what fettel Come ower here and we'll hettel, Weer ter gan and see the bloody tower We'll seyer at quarter past fower, They hadn't cum be haff past ite We were hungry so we went for a bite, When we asked for a bit of fadge It was easier ter gan and cadge bread, And from them we coudn't tarrk rite They passed the plate and called it a PLITE, They're a bad speaking clan They dont say Lundun they say LANDAN, What we ate we couldn't tell What we wanted we knew darned well, They spead their Bread with BATTER not Butter Never heard of a Hewer or Putter, On our Beef we wanted Mustard They said you mean MASSTARD, And we smothered our Apple Pie with Custard On theirs -- guess what-- CASSTARD, To travel about we went by Bus And to be posh they called it a BASS, After we said we were gannin yem They made sure we understood them, They wished we'd gone and stayed Cos they loved our pitmatic twang Our northen accent and bits of slang, On parting they said this to us, "Even though we didn't narr out what yae were gannin on about, We pray that you will always speak so And never let you accent go". ------------============------------- ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Press BREAK for part 2 Press BREAK for part 2